From the maker of BBS Wordle, BBS Drag Racing, Bowling Solitaire, X-News door and more comes Kannons and Katapults Remastered Edition! For the first time in the game's 34-year history, challenge other players in asynchronous turn-based battles! Create games, join existing matches, and compete on separate PvP rankings. Or just like the OG version you can battle vs. the Komputer. For more info and to download visit the KNK Remastered website here [https://bbswordle.com/knk25/].
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From the maker of BBS Wordle, BBS Drag Racing, Bowling Solitaire, X-News door and more comes Kannons and Katapults Remastered Edition! For the first time in the game's 34-year history, challenge other players in asynchronous turn-based battles! Create games, join existing matches, and compete on separate PvP rankings. Or just like the OG version you can battle vs. the Komputer. For more info and to download visit the KNK Remastered website here [https://bbswordle.com/knk25/]. ===

I have the same problem with this door as the others, it acts like enter was hit 5 or 6 times on startup and behaves that way... Wordle and x-news aren't affected as they ignore that. I've reported this, but was totally blown off. SBBS probably doesn't have this issue, but if I do Mystic and others probably do with the win32 door.

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Re: Kannons and Katapults - Remastered
By: Martin Kazmaier to Rob McGee on Mon Dec 01 2025 19:31:00

I have the same problem with this door as the others, it acts like enter was hit 5 or 6 times on startup and behaves that way... Wordle and x-news aren' affected as they ignore that. I've reported this, but was totally blown off SBBS probably doesn't have this issue, but if I do Mystic and others probabl do with the win32 door.

Are you logging into your bbs locally or via a terminal program? If so, what terminal program are you using?
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Re: Kannons and Katapults - Remastered
By: Martin Kazmaier to Rob McGee on Mon Dec 01 2025 19:31:00

I have the same problem with this door as the others, it acts like

enter was

hit 5 or 6 times on startup and behaves that way... Wordle and x-news

aren'

affected as they ignore that. I've reported this, but was totally

blown off

SBBS probably doesn't have this issue, but if I do Mystic and others

probabl

do with the win32 door.

Are you logging into your bbs locally or via a terminal program? If so, what terminal program are you using?

Thanks, it's the terminals. mtelnet, netrunner and icyterm all have this issue. syncterm does not and connectbot does not. Both of the last two disconnect on the advent calendar, though...

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To: Martin Kazmaier
Re: Kannons and Katapults - Remastered
By: Martin Kazmaier to Mike Powell on Tue Dec 02 2025 12:51 pm

From Newsgroup: FidoNet.DOORGAMES

Re: Kannons and Katapults - Remastered By: Martin Kazmaier to Rob
McGee on Mon Dec 01 2025 19:31:00

I have the same problem with this door as the others, it acts like

enter was

hit 5 or 6 times on startup and behaves that way... Wordle and x-news

aren'

affected as they ignore that. I've reported this, but was totally

blown off

SBBS probably doesn't have this issue, but if I do Mystic and others

probabl

do with the win32 door.

Are you logging into your bbs locally or via a terminal program?
If so, what terminal program are you using?

Thanks, it's the terminals. mtelnet, netrunner and icyterm all have
this issue. syncterm does not and connectbot does not. Both of the
last two disconnect on the advent calendar, though...

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Are you logging into your bbs locally or via a terminal program? If so, what terminal program are you using?

Thanks, it's the terminals. mtelnet, netrunner and icyterm all have this issue. syncterm does not and connectbot does not. Both of the last two disconnect on the advent calendar, though...

I have some issues with some terminal programs adding extra CRs when
accessing things on my DOS bbs. It can be fixed by using Syncterm in RAW
mode instead of Telnet mode. I am not sure how you invoke raw mode in
other terminal programs, or if you can.

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* In a message originally to Martin Kazmaier, Jas Hud said:

To: Martin Kazmaier Re: Kannons and Katapults - Remastered By: Martin Kazmaier to Mike Powell on Tue Dec 02 2025 12:51 pm

From Newsgroup: FidoNet.DOORGAMES

Re: Kannons and Katapults - Remastered By: Martin Kazmaier to Rob McGee on Mon Dec 01 2025 19:31:00

I have the same problem with this door as the others, it acts

like

enter was

hit 5 or 6 times on startup and behaves that way... Wordle and

x-news

aren'

affected as they ignore that. I've reported this, but was

totally

blown off

SBBS probably doesn't have this issue, but if I do Mystic and

others

probabl

do with the win32 door.

Are you logging into your bbs locally or via a terminal program? If so, what terminal program are you using?

Thanks, it's the terminals. mtelnet, netrunner and icyterm all have
this issue. syncterm does not and connectbot does not. Both of the
last two disconnect on the advent calendar, though...

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works fine under synchronet using mtelnet and syncterm.

Sorry fo the huge quote, using my phone. mtelnet skips 2 screens. syncterm works fine.

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To: Martin Kazmaier
Re: Kannons and Katapults - Remastered By: Martin Kazmaier to Jas Hud
on Wed Dec 03 2025 10:25 am@

works fine under synchronet using mtelnet and syncterm.

Sorry fo the huge quote, using my phone. mtelnet skips 2 screens. syncterm works fine.

it showed the same screens as syncterm. so is this a mystic bbs issue?

i'm talking about knk2

I run ELE. I don't know. When I use mtelnet I don't see the ANSI music prompt.

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Hey Martin!

On Thu, 04 Dec 2025 11:34:00 , you wrote:

I run ELE. I don't know. When I use mtelnet I don't see the ANSI
music prompt.

Is it possible knk2 tries to detect ANSI music support, and if not found it doesn't display the prompt?

Mtelnet, as well as most other BBS telnet programs, have never supported ANSI music. Mtelnet never will, either. Syncterm is one of the few (maybe even one of the only) that does, though. So this may explain why whatever you're talking about is only displayed in Syncterm, and not in the others you've tried.

Regards,
Nick

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Re: Kannons and Katapults - Remastered
By: Nick Boel to Martin Kazmaier on Thu Dec 04 2025 04:36 pm

Mtelnet, as well as most other BBS telnet programs, have never supported ANSI music. Mtelnet never will, either. Syncterm is one of the few (maybe even one of the only) that does, though. So this may explain why whatever you're talking about is only displayed in Syncterm, and not in the others you've tried.

Honestly, IcyTerm supports a huge amount of stuff... I would be completely unsurprised to learn it does ANSI music as well.
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Hey Martin!

On Thu, 04 Dec 2025 11:34:00 , you wrote:

I run ELE. I don't know. When I use mtelnet I don't see the ANSI music prompt.

Is it possible knk2 tries to detect ANSI music support, and if not found it doesn't display the prompt?

Mtelnet, as well as most other BBS telnet programs, have never supported ANSI music. Mtelnet never will, either. Syncterm is one of the few (maybe even one of the only) that does, though. So this may explain why whatever you're talking about is only displayed in Syncterm, and not in the others you've tried.

It doesn't detect ANSI music it asks the user if they heard any or just saw
a series of characters.

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Hey Martin!

On Thu, 04 Dec 2025 16:44:00 , you wrote:

It doesn't detect ANSI music it asks the user if they heard any or just
saw a series of characters.

Ah, well sorry then. I tried. Good luck figuring it out!

Regards,
Nick

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Hey Jas!

On Fri, 05 Dec 2025 04:40:14 -0600, you wrote:

and this guy is just forgetting that he said no to the ansi sound
effects. it asks you. "Press [ENTER] to continue. -=> FT64L64O5CDP32CDP32CDP16 If your terminal supports ANSI sound, you just heard some. If it doesnt, you just saw some weird characters.

Good to know!

Do you want the ANSI sound effects? [Y/N] -=>"

this is mt32 when you say you want the sound
effects. it attemps the ansi music.
https://i.imgur.com/fZIQTZ3.png

The only thing I was sure of when I replied was that Mtelnet /doesn't/ support ansi sound.

Syncterm does, though, and I agree with you it usually has been a terrible experience. If anyone could do the original DOOM soundtrack, though.. I'd give it another shot. Until then, though... :D

Regards,
Nick

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To: Nick Boel
Re: Kannons and Katapults - Remastered By: Nick Boel to Martin
Kazmaier on Thu Dec 04 2025 04:36 pm

and this guy is just forgetting that he said no to the ansi sound effects. it asks you. "Press [ENTER] to continue. -=> FT64L64O5CDP32CDP32CDP16
If your terminal supports ANSI sound, you just heard some. If it
doesnt, you just saw some weird characters.

Do you want the ANSI sound effects? [Y/N] -=>"

this is mt32 when you say you want the sound effects. it attemps
the ansi music. https://i.imgur.com/fZIQTZ3.png

Nope, mt32 when connecting to my system doesn't ask about sound effects. It skips right by it. You're using sbbs and are spoiled. If syncterm doesn't have this problem, why would sbbs? Other systems do with netrunner and to a lesser extend, mt32.

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Hey Martin!

On Fri, 05 Dec 2025 18:58:00 , you wrote:

Nope, mt32 when connecting to my system doesn't ask about sound effects.
It skips right by it. You're using sbbs and are spoiled. If syncterm doesn't have this problem, why would sbbs? Other systems do with
netrunner and to a lesser extend, mt32.

Let's start this over.

You mentioned that you run EleBBS, and you are "connecting to my system," meaning EleBBS. Does EleBBS have some way to run javascript games made specifically for Synchronet?

If this is the "Remastered" one you reference in the subject line, I had never heard of this version until now. I found a youtube video of a guy playing it recently where there is no sound whatsoever:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCEh4UAYMLA

.. and can be downloaded and read about here:

https://bbswordle.com/knk25/

While it may be the same game, they are not the same game. However, they are both based off the original by Alan Davenport.

In Deuce's version, you can hit "Z" from the main menu to toggle ansi music on or off. Maybe the version you're referring to has something similar, and maybe he got rid of the actual question that you have never seen..? I don't know the answer to that.

It mentions that ansi music is supported, however I didn't see any evidence of that in the video. Nor did I see a prompt asking about it in the video, either. You might want to try to contact the person that "remastered the game" with your issues, which I found for you in the file_id.diz:

KANNONS & KATAPULTS 25
Remastered Edition (2025)
================================
Classic BBS Door Game from 1991

NOW WITH MULTIPLAYER PvP!
First time in the game's 34-year
history - battle other players!

* Klassic Mode vs King Computer
* Async turn-based PvP battles
* Separate PvP & AI rankings
* Full ANSI music support
* Multi-platform support

Original: Alan Davenport (1991)
Remastered: Alexander Corris

Linux Version
Freeware - alexcorris@outlook.com

And again, mt32 and Netrunner do /not/ support ansi music. So even if the game does actually support it, it won't work with those programs. Syncterm, Icy_Term, and Qodem do, though.

Regards,
Nick

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* In a message originally to Martin Kazmaier, Nick Boel said:

Hey Martin!

On Fri, 05 Dec 2025 18:58:00 , you wrote:

Nope, mt32 when connecting to my system doesn't ask about sound

effects.

It skips right by it. You're using sbbs and are spoiled. If syncterm doesn't have this problem, why would sbbs? Other systems do with netrunner and to a lesser extend, mt32.

Let's start this over.

You mentioned that you run EleBBS, and you are "connecting to my system," meaning EleBBS. Does EleBBS have some way to run javascript games made specifically for Synchronet?

No, this is not a synchronet game. This is a win32 door.

What I'm stating is that when running the door on shsbbs.net, using mtelnet
or netrunner or icyterm, the first few pages are skipped as if enter is hit repeatedly. Same is true with all win32 doors by this author. In many of them, this resutls in the first screen being redrawn many times before it
calms down.

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Hey Martin!

On Fri, 05 Dec 2025 23:42:00 , you wrote:

No, this is not a synchronet game. This is a win32 door.

Right. But you're asking about it in Dovenet where people think you're referring to the JS version of the game, causing (at the very least myself) confusion.

What I'm stating is that when running the door on shsbbs.net, using
mtelnet or netrunner or icyterm, the first few pages are skipped as if
enter is hit repeatedly. Same is true with all win32 doors by this
author. In many of them, this resutls in the first screen being redrawn many times before it calms down.

Contact the author and ask him about it? I gave you his email address, and I don't think I've ever seen him post here, so what you are stating may be falling on deaf ears.

Regards,
Nick

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Hey Martin!

On Fri, 05 Dec 2025 23:42:00 , you wrote:

No, this is not a synchronet game. This is a win32 door.

Nevermind the first part of my last comment. This isn't Dovenet. The rest still stands, though.

Regards,
Nick

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* In a message originally to Martin Kazmaier, Nick Boel said:

Hey Martin!

On Fri, 05 Dec 2025 23:42:00 , you wrote:

No, this is not a synchronet game. This is a win32 door.

Right. But you're asking about it in Dovenet where people think you're referring to the JS version of the game, causing (at the very least
myself) confusion.

This message was posted on Fidonet.

What I'm stating is that when running the door on shsbbs.net, using mtelnet or netrunner or icyterm, the first few pages are skipped as if enter is hit repeatedly. Same is true with all win32 doors by this author. In many of them, this resutls in the first screen being

redrawn

many times before it calms down.

Contact the author and ask him about it? I gave you his email address, and
I don't think I've ever seen him post here, so what you are stating may be falling on deaf ears.

I have already done that and was ignored.

Regards, Nick

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So, the DOSBOX-X "softmodem" does support a telnet mode that may help with the
issue... "ATNET1" selects telnet (and "ATNET0" turns it back off).

I assume that goes into the initial modem init string?

The thing to be careful of is that the entire command gets otherwise ignored i
the substring "NET1" or "NET0" is in it, so if you're doing other init stuff you need to be sure it's separate.

Noted. May complicate things a bit.


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So, the DOSBOX-X "softmodem" does support a telnet mode that may help with the issue... "ATNET1" selects telnet (and "ATNET0" turns it back off).

The thing to be careful of is that the entire command gets otherwise ignored if the substring "NET1" or "NET0" is in it, so if you're doing other init stuff you need to be sure it's separate.

So when I am in the BBS program and send 'ATNET1' to the DB-X "modem" I do get an "OK," which would make me think it supports it. To verify this, I sent an unknown string, 'ATBAG', and got "ERROR."

However, if I set the host mode init string to:

ATNET1|~~AT(actual init string)|

Which should send the ATNET1<cr>, wait a couple of seconds, and then send the real init.

I then used the telnet protocol to connect and I still got the same double-CR issue I had before. So apparently it recognizes ATNETx as a valid string but otherwise knows not what it means.... or I need to send it a different way.

Unlike BinkleyTerm, the BBS software *doesn't* have a separate pre-init that can be defined.

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Contact the author and ask him about it? I gave you his email address, and I don't think I've ever seen him post here, so what you are stating may be falling on deaf ears.

I have already done that and was ignored.

That may be an unfortunate sign that the door is not really supported and therefore is not worth bothering with. :(

Mike

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Hey Martin!

On Sat, 06 Dec 2025 07:42:00 , you wrote:

This message was posted on Fidonet.

I know. That's why I replied again and corrected myself.

Contact the author and ask him about it? I gave you his email
address, and I don't think I've ever seen him post here, so what you
are stating may be falling on deaf ears.

I have already done that and was ignored.

How in the world do you think you were ignored? Do you consider not getting a reponse instantly because the world revolves around you, as being ignored? Might want to ease up a bit and give it a little time. He may be busy, your email may have ended up in his spam folder, etc.

There are plenty of possibilities that your email didn't get reponded to as soon as /you/ would have liked. This is just a hobby, after all.

So long as you sent the email to the right place, and didn't /demand/ he fix your issue, you did all you can do.

If that one little annoyance is hindering you from enjoying the game, don't play the game. It's as easy as that.

Regards,
Nick

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Hey Jas!

On Sun, 07 Dec 2025 05:33:40 -0600, you wrote:

While it may be the same game, they are not the same game. However,
they are both based off the original by Alan Davenport.

this game asks you if you want ansi music. i posted screenshot.

Ah, good to know.

here it is asking me when running it local with no mt32 or syncterm
if i want ansi music

I see that now. Maybe that's why his email was "ignored," as he states.

If you hit enter at that prompt, does it automatically select "N", by chance?

Also, is there a "Z" command from the main menu that toggles ansi sound on and off ("?" at that menu will show a list of available commands). I'm going off of Deuce's version that I have installed here, as I don't have this "25/Remastered" one installed. If they both function the same, then I don't know what to tell the guy.

Regards,
Nick

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* In a message originally to Martin Kazmaier, Nick Boel said:

Hey Martin!

On Sat, 06 Dec 2025 07:42:00 , you wrote:

This message was posted on Fidonet.

I know. That's why I replied again and corrected myself.

Contact the author and ask him about it? I gave you his email
address, and I don't think I've ever seen him post here, so what you
are stating may be falling on deaf ears.

I have already done that and was ignored.

How in the world do you think you were ignored? Do you consider not
getting a reponse instantly because the world revolves around you, as
being ignored? Might want to ease up a bit and give it a little time. He
may be busy, your email may have ended up in his spam folder, etc.

There are plenty of possibilities that your email didn't get reponded to
as soon as /you/ would have liked. This is just a hobby, after all.

So long as you sent the email to the right place, and didn't /demand/ he
fix your issue, you did all you can do.

If that one little annoyance is hindering you from enjoying the game,
don't play the game. It's as easy as that.

I was responded to and told there was no bug.

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To: Mike Powell
Re: Kannons and Katapults - R
By: Mike Powell to MARTIN KAZMAIER on Sun Dec 07 2025 11:13 am

From Newsgroup: FidoNet.DOORGAMES

Contact the author and ask him about it? I gave you his email
address, and I don't think I've ever seen him post here, so what you are stating may be falling on deaf ears.

I have already done that and was ignored.

That may be an unfortunate sign that the door is not really supported
and therefore is not worth bothering with. :(

some people don't know to work email and some people don't know how to
write decent bug reports. maybe one side has the reply in their spam folder.

and if someone is vague i'm not going to play 20 questions with them. in the end it will be something stupid they did.

right now martin isnt providing any proof of the issue. he's just saying it doesn't work on his system. i can't even GET on his system to verify it due to his system having issues. he then blames synchronet bbs software for the reason we dont have an issue but when you run it outside of synchronet it doensn't have an issue.

should we bring in phil taylor too? make this a bigger shit show?
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To: Nick Boel
Re: Kannons and Katapults - Remastered
By: Nick Boel to Jas Hud on Sun Dec 07 2025 10:42 am

Also, is there a "Z" command from the main menu that toggles ansi
sound on and off ("?" at that menu will show a list of available
commands). I'm going off of Deuce's version that I have installed
here, as I don't have this "25/Remastered" one installed. If they
both function the same, then I don't know what to tell the guy.

Regards, Nick

so i've i'm on knk25 and you slam enter at the prompt it just continues.
i'm going to assume it doesnt do ansi music. it doesnt say 'defaulting with
no ansi music'.

now i think it has it off. i press z at the main menu
it says:

"Sounds ON
FT96O4L32P32CP64CP64CP64L16EP64L32CP64L12E"
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To: Martin Kazmaier
Re: Kannons and Katapults - Remastered
By: Martin Kazmaier to Nick Boel on Sun Dec 07 2025 01:25 pm

If that one little annoyance is hindering you from enjoying the game, don't play the game. It's as easy as that.

I was responded to and told there was no bug.

well that wasn't being ignored.
what proof did you provide?
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To: Nick Boel
Re: Kannons and Katapults - Remastered
By: Nick Boel to Jas Hud on Sun Dec 07 2025 10:42 am

so i was able to get on shsbbs.net and to the doorgame menu
by doing fast login.

i go into his game and it does behave like some commands are entered
and i see a high ascii character at the main menu:

https://i.imgur.com/D5iouhx.png

so i think he should use netfoss or msyncfoss to launch the game
and that might fix the issue.

i think it's an elebbs issue.


maybe pcmike could explain why it's doing this but I think he's done with bbsing.
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* In a message originally to Martin Kazmaier, Jas Hud said:

To: Martin Kazmaier Re: Kannons and Katapults - Remastered By: Martin Kazmaier to Nick Boel on Sun Dec 07 2025 01:25 pm

If that one little annoyance is hindering you from enjoying the

game,

don't play the game. It's as easy as that.

I was responded to and told there was no bug.

well that wasn't being ignored. what proof did you provide?

Just a report. I don't have the know-how to make a video of screen output, I can only do screen captures. I consider that being ignored.

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To: Martin Kazmaier
Re: Kannons and Katapults - Remastered
By: Martin Kazmaier to Jas Hud on Mon Dec 08 2025 12:24 pm

the way to fix this is to not accept anything except those commands
on the main menu. it accepts any data as a no for ansi and it picks
a mode of knk.

I don't experience what you're reporting. What terminal are you
using? I've tried mtelnet, icyterm, syncterm and netrunner with no problems...

are you smoking crack or something.
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To: Martin Kazmaier
Re: Kannons and Katapults - Remastered
By: Martin Kazmaier to Jas Hud on Mon Dec 08 2025 12:38 pm@

he said there isn't a bug. perhaps your report was real poor. what exactly did you say?

Exactly what I said here, that at the beginning of starting the door,
it acts like enter has been pressed several times when using a term
other than syncterm. They said everyone uses syncterm so it's not
their problem.

you just said you dont have that problem and i replied are you smoking crack.


anyways, that guy doesnt care so dont use his programs.
i emailed him and he didn't reply.
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To: Martin Kazmaier
Re: Kannons and Katapults - Remastered By: Martin Kazmaier to Jas Hud
on Mon Dec 08 2025 12:24 pm

the way to fix this is to not accept anything except those commands on the main menu. it accepts any data as a no for ansi and it picks a mode of knk.

I don't experience what you're reporting. What terminal are you
using? I've tried mtelnet, icyterm, syncterm and netrunner with no problems...

are you smoking crack or something.

? I don't understand why you ask. My haldol would make it ineffective. A friend of mine patched the game to avoid the error. I don't know if he's willing or up to patching the other games. I won't be putting them out in
the wild. Try again, I'm back on win 10 32 bit. If you were having
problems, they were probably related to win 11 ntvdmx64, though I didn't see what you were reporting, locally or remotely. Even from connectbot on my
phone the bbs menus looked fine.

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