I recently bought a used cheapy 67% mech keyboard and its been my favor computer upgrade in a LONG time. I love it...

I swear by my Logitech MX Master because I need to switch between my
work and home PC. If that changes, I'm going to go so far down the mechanical keyboard rabbithole, so hard.

... most of the mechanical keyboards [All brands] use the same mainboard/setup - most have wired, USB dongle and bluetooth. The bluetooth can be paired to three devices and can be switched with a Fn+Q/W/E.



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I swear by my Logitech MX Master because I need to switch between my work and

>me PC. If that changes, I'm going to go so far down the mechanical keyboard r
>ithole, so hard.

I know this has nothing to do with the newer super keyboards you guys
have been talking about but, just as a curiosity, the Maxiswitch keyboard
I am using to write this I have used since about 2 years after it was manufactured - in June of 1991. They don't build them like that anymore. B)

I do have a gaming keyboard with all the flashy lights and supposedly
good for zillions of keystrokes, but I'm so used to this one I will
keep using it until it finally dies..

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Re: Re: How do you use unix?
By: Nightfox to Android8675 on Thu Feb 20 2025 10:12 am

Today they have NONE of that. What's replaced it? A new football field! Yeah, because that's what kids need, a one in a billion shot at "making it" and a 1:1,000 chance of getting a concussion. Go Team! All the facilities are still there, they just aren't used.

I find it odd how much focus they put on sports in school, including college..

It's where the money is. Old money are a buncha dying codgers who could care less about the future. Honestly... it's sad. Used to be there was football and there were other things for kids to do. Now there's Internet.

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Re: Re: How do you use unix?
By: MRO to Android8675 on Thu Feb 20 2025 01:13 pm

anyways, i like the reddragon brand. my old one broke because i spilled soda on it. this is the one i have now. very clicky.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07G11G2X8

i have to have volume control on my keyboards. I don't use macros. I also like having a lit keyboard.

Red Dragons are great starters. When you get into the stuff at Drop.com where you can buy a sample set of different switches, pick the ones you like, get a set of high quality keycaps, buy a barebones all aluminum base keyboard with quick swap key sockets (no soldering needed) and a cool coiled usb cable.

Sit back and realize you just spent more money on a "keeb" than your entire piece of shit Dell Inspiron... then you'll know you have an issue.

Just having a base made of aluminum is pretty cool. This keeb could take out a would be attacker, no problem.

-A.

I'm looking at a mechanical keyboard for my Atari 800 at the moment.

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Re: Re: How do you use unix?
By: phigan to Android8675 on Sat Feb 22 2025 05:29 am

My newest keeb my boss bought for me as a thank you.

Man, I like mech keybs too, but that one is just way too pricey. In contrast, my daily driver keyboard was $21 total ($12 for the actual keyboard and $9 for some nicer caps). Don't get me wrong, I've spent over a hundred on ones for older computers, but nothing as high as that one :).

Read my previous post, this one I got because it was cheap. (got it on sale so it wasn't at whatever price you saw, gotta know where and when to buy these things)

I can't use cheap keyboards anymore. those flat chicklet dell keyboards that cost nothing cause my carpal to flare up. Probably the reason I have bad wrists is because I didn't own a decent keeb until a while ago.

If money was no object I could easily spend $500 on one keyboard and be thrilled as punch. I'd have to have a system to match though, so that'll never happen. I can't cheap out on something I spend so many hours a day using.

Were we on a topic of window managers? I've always liked super lightweight ones like fvwm2, windowmaker, blackbox/fluxbox, etc... but lately after they

I never understood windowsmanagers, I typically just use whatever the distro comes with, but I only have one Linux install at the moment and it's running headless, so... When I remote in I think it's running... geez I have no idea. /shame.

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Re: Re: How do you use unix?
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Android8675 on Fri Feb 21 2025 07:58 am

Stuff I got to do:
3 years photography (love)

I took a photo class at a local junior college after shooting film and digital for 10 years, and loved it. There's something about the process
when you don't see the picture as soon as you shoot it, and you do all
the things you'd do in Photoshop in the dark room that makes pictures
more meaningful to me.

Cabrillo? I did photography there, my teacher had spent time with Ansel Adams and while a wealth of knowledge, he wasn't the best teacher. Made me feel bad because I didn't have the best artistic vision. Whatever, got to use a dark room. :)

Theater was big in my school, and it's big in my daughter's school -
we've seen some really impressive performances. The kids do all the backstage work, too. I've been trying to steer her to theater since all
of my theater friends in high school ended up being the cool adults, and
are still close many years later.

Good daddy! I still see the theater geeks around the Internet from time to time, still being creative or awesome.

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Re: Re: How do you use unix?
By: Android8675 to MRO on Fri Feb 28 2025 07:59 am

i have to have volume control on my keyboards. I don't use macros. I also like having a lit keyboard.

Red Dragons are great starters. When you get into the stuff at Drop.com where you can buy a sample set of different switches, pick the ones you like, get a set of high quality keycaps, buy a barebones all aluminum base keyboard with quick swap key sockets (no soldering needed) and a cool coiled usb cable.

Sit back and realize you just spent more money on a "keeb" than your entire piece of shit Dell Inspiron... then you'll know you have an issue.

Just having a base made of aluminum is pretty cool. This keeb could take out a would be attacker, no problem.

i think the best keyboard i ever had was a g15 logitech. it wasn't mechanical or anything but it felt great. broke way too easy. i broke 2 keyboards just cleaning them. https://i.imgur.com/boK1rOh.jpeg

i've had aluminum keyboards and other clicky keyboards. i just need something lighted up and clicky because i'm in the dark. also i need a volume control wheel.
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On Fri, 28 Feb 2025 08:05:16 -0800, you wrote:

I never understood windowsmanagers, I typically just use whatever the distro comes with, but I only have one Linux install at the moment
and it's running headless, so... When I remote in I think it's
running... geez I have no idea. /shame.

Not sure what you don't understand about window managers. They're all very different in their own regard, gives people choice, and you aren't forced to use one specific one on whatever you choose to run as a distro. You can even make your own distro, if you want.

With the open source community, any single person can make their own window manager to suit their needs. If it gains popularity, it sometimes gets used as an option in a distro's install process (some distros offer a selection of window managers you can choose from during install, etc).

It just comes down to freedom and choice, is all.

Regards,
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MRO wrote to Android8675 <=-

i've had aluminum keyboards and other clicky keyboards. i just need something lighted up and clicky because i'm in the dark.

Well tell your mom to get the bulbs replaced down there in the basement
of her house. Duh!




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Android8675 wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

Cabrillo? I did photography there, my teacher had spent time with Ansel Adams and while a wealth of knowledge, he wasn't the best teacher. Made
me feel bad because I didn't have the best artistic vision. Whatever,
got to use a dark room. :)

Laney College, in Oakland, probably around 2002 or so. The teacher was
adamant that one assignment was crucial, and you would flunk if you
failed to turn it in. He re-iterated "If you don't turn in this
assignment, you can take this class over again. If you turn it in, you can't..."

I think the class was $35 a semester, plus chemistry. You could get into
the dark room any time they had an open bay, and the teacher sold
expired Tri-X he had in his freezer for $1.25 a roll.




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Android8675 wrote to phigan <=-

I can't use cheap keyboards anymore. those flat chicklet dell keyboards that cost nothing cause my carpal to flare up. Probably the reason I
have bad wrists is because I didn't own a decent keeb until a while
ago.

I still want to find a Focus 2001 keyboard. I miss the clicky but
non-effort keyboards from the '90s. I think they were ALPS key switches
back then. They have the old AT connector, so I'd need to figure some
way to get to USB.

I did some googling around and found this, in black with USB!

https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/xtneip/if_you_know_you_know_black_focus_fk2001/

I did all of my BBSing in the 90s with one of these or a Model M.

If money was no object I could easily spend $500 on one keyboard and be thrilled as punch. I'd have to have a system to match though, so
that'll never happen. I can't cheap out on something I spend so many
hours a day using.

I started splurging on keyboards, monitors and mice at work - those are relatively cheap and they're what people's impressions of PCs are mostly
based on. Although, I haven't seen a desktop PC in any of my company's offices... All laptops.


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Re: Re: How do you use unix?
By: Android8675 to MRO on Fri Feb 28 2025 07:59 am

I'm looking at a mechanical keyboard for my Atari 800 at the moment.

There's one that is I think open source and at least one person has put a few together. If you haven't found one yet, talk to Divarin on Mutiny:Community BBS at mutinybbs.com:2300. He can tell you how he put several together to keep costs down (sold a few).

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Re: Re: How do you use unix?
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Android8675 on Sat Mar 01 2025 06:50 am

Laney College, in Oakland, probably around 2002 or so. The teacher was adamant that one assignment was crucial, and you would flunk if you
failed to turn it in. He re-iterated "If you don't turn in this
assignment, you can take this class over again. If you turn it in, you can't..."

I think the class was $35 a semester, plus chemistry. You could get into
the dark room any time they had an open bay, and the teacher sold
expired Tri-X he had in his freezer for $1.25 a roll.

That straight up sounds amazing. SOme of the best shots I ever did was those happy accidents that Bob Ross always taught, and you cannot make happy accidents if all your shit is perfect.

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Re: Re: How do you use unix?
By: Android8675 to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Apr 14 2025 08:22 am

That straight up sounds amazing. SOme of the best shots I ever did was those happy accidents that Bob Ross always taught, and you cannot make happy accidents if all your shit is perfect.

One of my favorite shots from the class was of the garbage can, filled with almost-but-not-quite black and white prints.

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Re: Re: How do you use unix?
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Android8675 on Sat Mar 01 2025 06:50 am

Android8675 wrote to phigan <=-

https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/xtneip/if_you_know_you _kn ow_black_focus_fk2001/

I did all of my BBSing in the 90s with one of these or a Model M.

I started splurging on keyboards, monitors and mice at work - those are relatively cheap and they're what people's impressions of PCs are mostly based on. Although, I haven't seen a desktop PC in any of my company's offices... All laptops.

Yeah, my new gig is mostly laptops which i've never had before. it's nice to grab your computer for a meeting, come back to your desk, dock and work on full size stuff.

Computers, so glad I don't IT anymore. I just get to use em. :)

-A.

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Re: Re: How do you use unix?
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Android8675 on Fri Feb 21 2025 07:58 am

Theater was big in my school, and it's big in my daughter's school -
we've seen some really impressive performances. The kids do all the backstage work, too. I've been trying to steer her to theater since all
of my theater friends in high school ended up being the cool adults, and
are still close many years later.

Theater is amazing, and so many career paths. My best friend is a lighting tech, works on those giant riggings at large venue concerts, basically gets to setup all the cool tech that goes into large productions. It's hard work, but he doens't have to work that often. Rest of the time he's at burning man getting shit out of his teeth. (Runs BIMR on the Playa, total rockstar)

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Re: Re: How do you use unix?
By: MRO to Android8675 on Thu Feb 20 2025 01:13 pm

never heard someone call it a keeb.

anyways, i like the reddragon brand. my old one broke because i spilled soda on it. this is the one i have now. very clicky.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07G11G2X8

i have to have volume control on my keyboards. I don't use macros. I also like having a lit keyboard.

Red Dragons are GREAT, quality products, not terribly expensive, can still modify them a bit if you desire, but great out of the box.

LED keebs are fun. LED lighting these days is getting crazy if you're into the whole "i spend way too much money on my pc".

-A.

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Re: Re: How do you use unix?
By: Android8675 to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Sep 12 2025 11:21 am

Yeah, my new gig is mostly laptops which i've never had before. it's nice to grab your computer for a meeting, come back to your desk, dock and work on full size stuff.

Years ago, I had a job where they gave me a work laptop and an external monitor, mouse, and keyboard to use with it. The laptop's screen actually had a higher resolution than the external monitor though, and I ended up using the laptop screen as my main screen, as I could see more content at one time on it.

I'm in a similar situation now too, though the aspect ratios of the screns are different. My work laptop has a 3840x2400 screen, and work also gave me an external ultrawide monitor which is 3440x1440. I considered using the laptop screen as my main screen with this setup, but I feel like the laptop screen is actually a little small to read easily, so I've been using the external ultrawide monitor.

Nightfox

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On 12 Sep 2025, Android8675 said the following...

anyways, i like the reddragon brand. my old one broke because i spille soda on it. this is the one i have now. very clicky.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07G11G2X8

i have to have volume control on my keyboards. I don't use macros. I a like having a lit keyboard.

Red Dragons are GREAT, quality products, not terribly expensive, can
still modify them a bit if you desire, but great out of the box.

LED keebs are fun. LED lighting these days is getting crazy if you're
into the whole "i spend way too much money on my pc".

i also will +1 the redragon keyboards. i don't have the original switches anymore though (and don't really remember the stock experience other than that it was nice.. but SUPER clicky. wanted to try out some other stuff)

i have a K552 in white with a set of Akko switches (some "blue"-ish variant that they stopped making) and original NES color themed key caps

thankfully (mostly for my wallet) this put me way past the quality level i'd ever really care about personally.

and it has a key combo i can use the lock the keyboard from cats ;)

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Re: Re: How do you use unix?
By: fusion to Android8675 on Fri Sep 12 2025 06:48 pm

to try out some other stuff)

i have a K552 in white with a set of Akko switches (some "blue"-ish
variant that they stopped making) and original NES color themed
key caps

thankfully (mostly for my wallet) this put me way past the quality
level i'd ever really care about personally.

i had a k550 and now i have a k580 with blue switches.
they are decent keyboards but not perfect.

I'm not happy with how my k550 randomly died and they wouldn't replace it. their software works like shit with the mouse i have.
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Re: Re: How do you use unix?
By: Nightfox to Android8675 on Fri Sep 12 2025 11:48:41

Hi, Nightfox.

I feel like the laptop
screen is actually a little small to read easily, so I've been using the external ultrawide monitor.

That's old age gently knocking... just before it smashes through the door and gives you a turbo wedgie :)

I never needed glasses at all until about 40, I've only had them a few years and I seem to have speedrun from a low prescription "just to help" to needing varifocals and still half the time not being able to see what I'm looking at.

BobW

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Re: Re: How do you use unix?
By: Bob Worm to Nightfox on Mon Sep 15 2025 03:50 pm

I feel like the laptop
screen is actually a little small to read easily, so I've been using the
external ultrawide monitor.

That's old age gently knocking... just before it smashes through the door and gives you a turbo wedgie :)

I never needed glasses at all until about 40, I've only had them a few years and I seem to have speedrun from a low prescription "just to help" to needing varifocals and still half the time not being able to see what I'm looking at.

It could be getting older.. I'm 45 and have never needed glasses, but glasses may help some day. I do feel like my work laptop's screen resolution is fairly high, and for its size, it can mak text a bit small if you don't have a zoom setting on it..

Nightfox

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It could be getting older.. I'm 45 and have never needed glasses, but glasses may help some day. I do feel like my work laptop's screen resolution is fairly high, and for its size, it can mak text a bit
small if you don't have a zoom setting on it..

I have glasses and I do not regularly use them :(
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Re: Re: How do you use unix?
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Tue Dec 17 2024 01:00 pm

I still benefit from taking typing in HS. That said, I'm sure you can l using any of the online typing tutors today. The *main* thing is: don't at the keyboard, no matter what. This'll slow you down at first, but in end, you'll be a much faster typist, even with the inevitable mistakes.

Yeah, I've been a fan of this method for a while, doesn't hurt that I started getting into artsy mechianical keebs.

Big mechanical keyboard fan here! Although I'm not sure whether they're artsy or not :)

I got a ZSA Moonlander a few months ago and adore it, but it takes work to adapt and I've heard that some end up walking away unhappy, so I guess caveat emptor, but if you DO adapt you may well love yours as I do mine.

Much less strain on wrists and shoulders.

On the topic of touch typing training, the Moonlander came with a fun modern game that teaches touch typing called "Epistory". I play a fair amount still despite having long since adapted to the keyboard.

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